Rob had a rant on his site on the timing attack, with a CSRF twist.. We met him after our Vegas talk, but im not really sure how his attack differs from our published one.. my on-list response: -snip- From: haroon meer To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] Performing Distributed Brute Forcing of CSRF vulnerable login pages Hi Robert.. Thanks for the kind words on the talk.. If you check out the visio at: http://www.sensepost.com/blogstatic/2007/08/dxsrt.png you will see that its pretty much the same attack.. In a shameless display of self-pimpage, check out the paper http://www.sensepost.com/research/squeeza/dc-15-meer_and_slaviero-WP.pdf from page 12.. Figure 23 for example shows the results in a victim/zombies browser, after he has visited our page.. Effectively he tries the userlist we send him (in this case on a standard squirrelmail login page). Once he detects a timing diff (again using a trivial algorithm to avoid latency disparity) he simply makes another request to the attacker to report his success..